British Gas AI Fiasco
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I've heard of problems
that electicity and gas consumers have had over huge bills but
I never expected it to happen to me. It all started when my gas
supplier PFP Energy couldn't afford to stay in business and my
account was moved to British Gas by some sort of regulator in
September 2021.
I was repeatedly asked for gas
meter readings by PFP and BG and duly reported these on-line.
The new supplier who had been emailing regularly to keep me in
touch with goings on asked me to supply a second meter reading.
The first reading they already had from previous updates. Then
I was warned that if I didn't organise a Direct Debit my gas
price would increase.
So I used the email link to
begin the process. Before I could proceed I had to submit the
latest meter reading which is where the story began. I couldn't
log into my account so chose to renew my password. I did this
and logged in then submitted my latest meter reading. I got a
circling display telling me the reading was being dealt with
but after ages nothing had happened so I decided to ring British
Gas. I had to open a new browser page to discover a phone number
and eventually was able to key in my latest meter reading on
my telephone keypad which was acknowledged. By then the previous
page with the circling display had stopped circling and showed
me my new reading and an email told me all was well.
I then proceeded to follow instructions
in the email to open a new Direct Debit to save cash. Much to
my surprise a message asked me to proceed with an intial direct
debit of £3903.25 followed by 11 more totalling £46,838.98.
Oops... no wonder my previous gas supplier had gone bust as I
was only paying 40 odd pounds a month. Obviously I didn't proceed.
I'd rather get a log burner stove for heating as we use gas only
for our central heating.
There clearly is a problem so
I checked on line.. "our offices are open on the 28th December
from 9am till 5pm", but when I tried a recorded message
said they were closed. Clearly the information on the website
is wrong. On this point... if call centres are in India why have
UK working day hours,,, and does India recognise UK bank holidays??
I persevered and found I if
raised a complaint I could actually talk to someone.. a real
person called Abdul, by typing messages with my computer.
I explained the problem to Abdul
and it became clear that the software running the British Gas
website hadn't been written properly. My guess it assumed the
first meter reading of around 14,000 odd somehow covered a gas
usage from some previous reading which must have been pretty
low.. maybe even zero? The account in fact showed two readings
over about 5 weeks separated by only a couple of hundred units.
Could these have been billed at some enormously expensive tariff
or perhaps at a normal tariff but at a daily usage.. I don't
know. I had rung British Gas back in October to enquire about
my new prices but they refused to tell me how much their gas
would be.
Anyway, after loads of typing
Abdul sorted it all out by changing the direct debit to £46.91
per month (a reduction of £3,856.34). Odd that the numbers
are calculated down to pence.. but they are.
If all this mess is put down
to this new fangled AI then we're in trouble. Basically the term
AI is pretty meaningless being entirely dependent only to the
skill of computer programmers. They may call themselves "Software
Engineers" but as far as engineering goes I'd rather trust
the second engineer on a bacon slicer.... |
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The next morning I decded to confirm
all was now well so went to the British Gas website, typed my
email address and my new password. It responded after a few minutes
with "Hello Charles".. OK I usually go by the name
"Allan" but no problem, I can live with this. Then
after ages of a row of odd sized blobs flashing on and off a
message came up to the effect they were not prepared to tell
me anything of interest except the message below followed by
an attempt to sell Gas Homecare cover but I suppose it was trying
to be welcoming. |
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I spotted a tab labelled
"Account" so I clicked it and was rewarded by a message |
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While looking at the BG
website an email arrived giving me good news from Abdul (saving
the best part of £4,000). As usual emailing is not an option
for customers as the phrase "no reply" is attached
to the sender.
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Ages ago these utility
people were obliged to read your meter not only to arrange an
accurate bill but to ensure nothing was amiss safetywise. I notice
that the regular meter reading period is now something like once
every two years so quite clearly safety is no longer an issue. |
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I went back to the website
and clicked on Account and got the message below. Seems young
Abdul's abacus had a bead missing perhaps? |
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Not only that but another click revealed
the tariff. |
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I see I'm due to pay £595.56
per annum.. but hang on, after all I have O Level maths so 12
times £46.91=£562.92.
I'm advised that I'll be overpaying
by £120 but according to my calculation I'll be underpaying
by £32.64. This represents an error of £120 + £32.64
= £152.64. Maybe young Abdul hasn't got O Level maths?
Interesting to note is that
if I'd chosen to pay by cash I'd have to pay more... Imagine
going to the bank at the end of the year with a bag of money..
I'd like to pay my gas bill.. here's £46,839 and you can
keep the 2p. That's not enough Allan because if you pay by cash
it'll be extra.. let's say another grand or so....
A few days later I received
yet another email with a link to my account and by carefully
checking each option I think I found the reason BG had wanted
to charge me a ridiculous amount. |
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The total usage is 14220-14102= 118
Further investigation reveals these are "gas
units" so 1317.33kWh=118 gas units or 1 gas unit=11.16kWh
But what if that amount of power 1317kWh were to be
used on just that day 28th Dec 2021 then that amount assumed
for every day for a month?
£52.30 x 365/12=£1591 per month.
Add in the daily rate 365 x 24.879p = £7.57
per month making £1598 ... and add 5% VAT = £1678
But the bill below shows 40 days so the monthly sum
should be less by 0.75 making £1259 per month which is
still too low.
Maybe the calculation was based on 14102 gas units?
That would make the usage 14102/118 (=120) times the cost of
118 gas units = £6276 for 40 days or £4707 per month
Add the daily rate of £7.57 and VAT for a month
and you get £5,019 per month which is too much compared
with £3,903.
I give up. |

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During my computerised
discussion with Abdul he'd stressed that I should cancel my direct
debit with PfP Energy which I did, but then looked on their website
to check my account and was surprised to see they must have been
resurrected and were chasing me for money. |
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Looking at their website
I can see where some of my gas money was being wasted ( they
were so keen on using stupid pictures they didn't think of putting
the full date), much like local councils who are even more profligate
insisting on producing tons of wasted paper and loads of expensive
website designers.. I refer back to 1968 when my annual council
bill was typed on a piece of A5 paper stating my name and address
with "Rateable value £19", "Rate 12/6d in
the pound", "Rates due £11:17:6d" (and that
included water rates). Computers were being used for proper jobs
such as tracking Russian aircraft and providing a 4 minute warning
of a nuclear attack.
Incidentally PfP were taking
£57.70 for January based on the contracted (cheap) rate
but British Gas will be taking £46.91 which is supposed
to be the maximum allowed rate. This is nearly 19% cheaper...
very odd. I give up again. |
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Wait till AI self-drive
cars are with us |
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When I penned all the above I vaguely imagined
everything would be hunky dory but alas, not so.
British Gas is switching their customers to a brand
new accounting system
"Were really excited about the updates
weve made so far. Were still making improvements
and well continue to work hard so we can make managing
your energy easier". |
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For a start my reference number, account number
or whatever its called is changing. Over the past year its gone
from a 10-digit number to a 12-digit number and now to "A"
followed by a 7-digit number. Pretty confusing and certainly
plenty of scope for errors.
I was invited to log on and marvel over the new system,
but firstly I did so with a PC (that's a proper computer) and
not a telephone. I should have guessed something may not work
when I saw the word "App". An App is a piece of code
written for mobile phones and of course usually not all mobile
phones but only those using a current operating system. Many
"Apps" only work on newish phones and not so many on
a PC. I noticed for example that the stupid bot thing that you
can chat to didn't work on my PC.
Not to be thwarted however.. and finding I couldn't
log on without renewing my password... something to do with my
Google Chrome getting hacked requiring me to completely destroy
all traces of it on my PC and then to use Firefox.. but that's
another story.. I did this and logged on. As I said the "New"
wasn't working just yet so I clicked a second link in the exciting
message and found my old account. Fortunately "Out with
the Old" was still in progress.
Oops.. I noticed an error. AI has failed again. |
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I decided to try and get the error fixed so
attempted to contact British Gas. I discovered that various hurdles
are placed in the way.. for example you need to describe the
problem before they'll let you send a message (other than actually
writing a letter to them.. and that is now obscenely expensive).
The list doesn't include software bugs. The "chat"
feature needs a mobile phone (which I do not have.. in this area
of weak signal one's head is irradiated by a mobile phone pushing
out max power resulting in a headache) and email access is not
an option due to difficulty in describing the topic so a phone
call (landline naturally) was the answer. This option said 9am
was the earliest a phone call could be made. Why?
I looked at the clock which said 8:57am so I could
call in a few minutes. This I did and after pressing the hash
button and either 1, 2 or 3, I finally managed by shouting "complaint"
to hear a phone ringing. It sort of sounded foreign.. sort of
an old-fashioned ringing and sure enough it was a telephone in
Cape Town, where resided a nice chap called Ruvahn.
After around 40 minutes I'd almost got things on an
even keel. My direct debit had moved from £199 a month
to £142 per month... still daylight robbery but there's
nowt I can do about that. Centrica guys will be trousering a
good proportion of the cash and maybe some will go to lobbyists
paid to badger MPs and who knows.. some may end up in the pockets
of the odd MP? Here I'm referring to the "Register of Members
interests" where bribes and cash or sweeteners for services
rendered are (openly) listed.
The stupid gas consumption reading of 157,833KWh however
will need to wait until the "New" system has replaced
the "Old" system. As an aside.. does this mean a brand
new programmer has written the new account software? Note in
the message above it includes the word "improvements"
which of course means fixing bugs (I was a programmer in 1970-1971
at GCHQ)
Ruvahn was puzzled about my November gas consumption,
but I explained that I'd erected a gasometer in our back garden,
filled it and was now supplying West Germany with gas. I'm not
sure he believed me.
After fixing my direct debit payment he explained
it might take 10 days for the new figure to be implemented. I
queried if this was because the paperwork needed to travel to
the UK from Cape Town but he said not, and anyway he said if
it had been paperwork someone would have pinched the paper anyway.
What is a bit puzzling is the huge annual sum involved.
That higher figure of £199 odd represents nearly £2,500
per annum for gas. If I'm charged a similar amount for electricity,
say £2,500 per annum that makes £5,000. The Government
promise said the average household would pay £2500 not
double that sum (seems someone is being economical with truth).
Our household is a pair of octogenarians. In order to meet the
average figure should we turn off the gas supply and freeze,
or turn off the electricity supply and be in darkness (and freeze
because our central heating pump needs electricity not gas).
Funny thing just happened. Our phone rang. The caller's
number was 011-83150-367 and it was a lady telling me I'd rung
British Gas and to rate the call from zero to ten, so I pressed
"0" and she said she didn't understand and repeated
"press zero to ten". I pressed "0" again
and she hung up. Probably a bit miffed I hadn't pressed "9".
On a different topic, I'd asked for a smart meter
yonks ago and as yet no luck.
My day job is fixing duff circuit boards and currently
it's virtually impossible to buy specific electronic components
(Oct 2022). I'm in the fortunate position of having the option
of using alternative parts but if a parts list for a specific
assembly needs a specific part (ie. no alternative specified)
you're often looking at a vague promise of delivery 12 months
away. So I cannot expect a smart meter for ages. |
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A couple of months passed
by and I thought I'd be really helpful and submit a gas meter
reading. I went to the British Gas website and logged into my
account. My name and address appeared together with the following
message...
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As I'm quite familiar with rubbish
software, having been in the computer industry since 1965 (as
an electrical engineer I should add), it never surprises me to
see such a message. Don't get me started on the Post Office "Horizon"
system!!!
I hunted around and found the
latest British Gas email.. this had a link to my account and
not withstanding any requirement for a password I was able to
see something relevant. Not that I understand what this means
and ignoring the pigeon English "Who" = "You
gave" and "Other".. whoever that might be (but
whoever it was must have been looking over my shoulder when I
last read my gas meter). |
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All starts to become clearer
once you realize there are two parallel software systems. A message
reminds me I can see earlier information. |
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One day I'll look into
these really strange figures.. but even just thinking about it
makes my head hurt.
This time last year British
Gas told me my usage of gas for November 2021 was 157,833KWh.
To give this a little context imagine a line of AA batteries
stretching 8 miles.
What about Smart Meters then?
I note that I've now been on the Smart Meter waiting list for
a few days over one year. In fact I'm beginning to develop a
distrust of such things... |
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It's now December 2023 and there are still odd
things concerning British Gas. We actually had a meter reader
here who noted or gas and electric meter readings, but what did
he do with them? My guess is the handheld machine couldn't register
with either British Gas or our electricity suppler because our
mobile phone signal is only even weak if I lean out of an upstairs
bedroom window. This, in fact is the reason we were told a Smart
Meter wasn't an option, however... read on. |
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Above is British Gas' version of "Chinese
water torture". Despite registering for a Smart Meter for
a couple of years and it being refused due to our abysmal phone
signal they keep sending me emails and (above) I notice our industrial
gas consumption has been re-instated, but at least I can be thankful
I'm not being chased for that £46,838.98. |
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